A first-of-its-kind debate on the John-Henry Westen Show: does accepting a universe billions of years old contradict a faithful Christian interpretation of Scripture?

Ed Mazza and astronomer Dr. Hugh Ross defend the proposition that it does not. Mazza argues the Church distinguishes the essential doctrine of creation from questions about how and over what period it unfolded—citing St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas, Pope Leo XIII, the Pontifical Biblical Commission, and Pope Pius XII. Ross approaches the question scientifically: distant galaxies, stellar development, and radioactive decay demonstrate immense cosmic ages while remaining compatible with belief in God as Creator.

Hugh Owen and Dr. Kevin Mark counter that Scripture, the Church Fathers, Catholic liturgy, and traditional teaching support a universe created less than 10,000 years ago. Owen argues Genesis records genuine history and that the supernatural work of creation cannot be reconstructed by extrapolating present-day natural processes backward in time. Mark challenges the Big Bang model and conventional dating methods, while Ross disputes the young-universe scientific arguments.

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