00:In this conversation, Trent Horn and Cade Bradley go head-to-head on some of the hardest questions in modern sexual ethics: whether morality is grounded in natural law or human flourishing, whether affirmation actually improves outcomes, and whether data alone can settle moral debates. They also clash over same-sex relationships, public norms, schools, DSM history, transgender questions, and the limits of harm-based reasoning.

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00:00:00 - Intro
00:03:16 Cade’s story: trad Catholicism, atheism, and sexuality
00:10:37 Prompt 1: How should society understand sexuality?
00:16:43 Drawing the moral fence: consent, adultery, and one-night stands
00:23:17 Bestiality, disgust, and whether harm is enough
00:31:33 Prompt 2: How should society respond to same-sex attraction?
00:36:56 Health outcomes, marriage, and social approval
00:47:17 Public indecency, schools, and age-appropriate boundaries
00:48:54 Can consequences ever redefine morality?
00:55:38 Genetic sexual attraction and first principles
00:57:12 Affirmation, suicide, and competing outcomes
01:07:00 Prompt 3: Gender identity and how society should respond
01:15:08 Youth transition, regret, and Europe’s pushback
01:19:11 Strategy, activism, and “After the Ball”
01:29:55 Data vs. first principles
01:31:02 Final statements and closing exchange