Why are some of the funniest people also some of the most wounded?

In this episode, we talk about the strange connection between suffering, vulnerability, and laughter—from Martin Short facing the death of his daughter, to Chris Farley turning his own awkwardness and vulnerability into comedy, to the simple, almost mysterious experience of making someone laugh. We explore why humor can loosen something in us, break through our masks, and give us a safe way to acknowledge things that are actually painful.

Maybe the people who make us laugh aren’t simply telling jokes. Maybe they’re giving us permission to be human.

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