The Jimmy Akin Podcast | Episode 089 (June 22, 2026)

In this electrifying episode, Jimmy Akin joins Austin Suggs (Gospel Simplicity) for a deep, respectful dialogue on purgatory and indulgences! Jimmy masterfully unpacks sanctification vs. satisfaction views, reveals surprising common ground between Catholics and Protestants, traces beautiful doctrinal development, and even dives into ghostly apparitions from purgatory. Fun, insightful, and full of joy—you won’t want to miss it!

Timecodes
00:00 – Coming Up
00:23 – Intro
01:08 – 1 Dialogue Begins
05:30 – 2 Satisfaction vs Sanctification
20:57 – 3 Is the Sanctification Theory Recognizable?
34:11 – 4 How Far Can the Satisfaction Model Go?
37:03 – 5 Austin Can Agree on a Minimalist Doctrine of Purgatory
48:18 – 6 How Indulgences Can Fit in a Protestant Theology
1:00:17 – 7 Merit vs The Treasury of the Church
1:07:04 – 8 Do Indulgences Distract us from a Proper Spiritual Motive?
1:14:52 – 9 Indulgences in the Sanctification Model
1:22:40 – 10 Theology Should Be Fun
1:24:53 – 11 GHOSTS!
1:35:09 – 12 What about Visions of Purgatory?
1:40:00 – 13 Austin Reflects on His Initial Video
1:41:34 – 14 Conclusion
1:41:49 – Closing/Outro
1:43:02 – End