Vice President JD Vance joins me for a special, wide-ranging episode of Bishop Barron Presents: Conversations at the Crossroads.

He and I discuss the insights of René Girard, his visit with Pope Francis just before his death, the state of our nation’s two major political parties, the influence of his confirmation saint—Augustine of Hippo—on his spiritual journey, and more.

It was an honor to speak with Vice President Vance, and I hope you enjoy the conversation as much as I did.

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