In this episode, Jenna and Beth sit down for a deeply honest, tender conversation about prayer, healing, and the quiet work God is doing beneath the surface of our lives.

They reflect on a powerful line from the Advent devotional—“Even if you’re safely in the sheepfold, there are little strongholds we’re still fiercely and foolishly protecting”—and unpack what it looks like to surrender the “small sins we secretly love,” the habits of vigilance, fear, gossip, and self-protection we don’t always realize we’re holding onto.

Together, they explore:

• How God heals us in ways we don’t expect—and often far more gently than we imagine
• The difference between striving for holiness and simply receiving love
• Mary’s role as a tender, present mother who teaches us divine simplicity, patience, and trust
• Why healing often comes through “paper cuts,” not dramatic moments
• How surrender, Eucharist, and prayer slowly rewire old blueprints in our hearts

This episode is full of laughter, vulnerability, rich imagery from prayer, and deep reassurance for anyone longing to grow, be purified, or simply rest in God’s care this Advent season.

If you’ve ever wondered where to begin healing, felt frustrated by the waiting, or desired a deeper relationship with Jesus through Mary, this conversation is for you.

✨ Take a deep breath. You don’t have to do anything. He’s already at work.

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📖 Referenced in this episode:
• The Advent Devotional
• The Parable of the Good Shepherd
• Prayer with imagery & imagination
• The role of Our Lady in the interior life

💬 We’d love to hear from you: What part of this conversation resonated most with you? Share in the comments.

🙏 Mother Mary, pray for us.

The Little Sins We Secretly Love and Protect 0:00
Exploring Our Inner Lives and Divine Simplicity 0:46
Imagining Mary Singing 'Your Beautiful' to Baby Jesus 5:00
Experiencing Mary's Tangible and Healing Motherly Love 8:49
Finding Calm in Mary's Unhurried Motherly Love 12:13
How Mary Beautifies Our Hidden Places of Grief 15:24
Mary Rewires Our Hearts with Love, Not Blueprints 18:16
Receiving Healing Medicine for Our Spiritual Paper Cuts 20:14
Surrendering Vigilance and Confessing Secret Sins 23:27
Embracing Discomfort and Trusting God's Story 27:43
Navigating Our Unique Spiritual Journeys to God 30:20
Sharing Book Recommendations and a Concluding Prayer 32:56

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