Host James Martin, S.J., welcomes Cardinal Ladislav Nemet, the Archbishop of Belgrade, Serbia, onto “The Spiritual Life” podcast.

0:00 Who is Cardinal Ladislav Nemet?
8:13 Place of humor and joy in spirituality
13:45 Upbringing in Serbia to Hungarian parents
22:57 Spiritual darkness
24:19 Healing from burnout
31:57 Becoming a bishop and its effects on his inner life
36:04 Why we should pray for one another
41:07 The Conclave that elected Pope Leo XIV
44:55 Audience Question: Is the church obsessed with death more than life?

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