This week on “Jesuitical,” Ashley and Sam Sawyer, S.J., president and editor in chief of America, have a conversation with David French, political commentator and opinion columnist at The New York Times, about the complex relationship between Christianity and politics during the Trump administration.

0:00 Banished from church and political party
7:17 How Trump and U.S. Christianity mingled
16:48 The abortion debate
19:58 Race and policing
22:49 Does character matter anymore?
24:46 A healthy Christianity response
30:28 Jesus is the model
35:19 Pope Leo and merciful orthodoxy
40:17 Signs of hope?
45:26 Reactions to Minneapolis killings

Links:
A Christian Answer to Trump and Trumpism Is Finally Here: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/16/opinion/trump-pope-leo-maga-christianity.html
Trump Is No Longer the Most Important American: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/11/opinion/pope-leo-christianity-evangelicals.html
David’s Podcast: “Advisory Opinions”: https://thedispatch.com/podcast/advisoryopinions/
Twin Cities pastors preach on the killing of Alex Pretti: ‘We are walking in darkness and living in fear’: https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/dispatches/2026/01/26/minneapolis-pastors-alex-pretti-ice-killing

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