Michael Miley is one of the greatest rock drummers on the planet and his story is unreal. Joy, mastery, discipline, faith… it’s all here.

He’s been a seeker his whole life: from Gnostic, to Krishna, to Christian, to Catholic. In this episode, he shares why he finally felt at home in the Catholic Church, how he offers every performance to God, and what it looks like to actively witness your faith in a totally secular setting.

On top of that, the interview is packed with practical wisdom on becoming excellent at anything — from someone who’s truly at the top of his craft.

Watch the full episode to the end for bonus footage of me and Miley jamming in my living room.

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