Tensions between the White House and the Vatican have drawn new attention following recent comments from President Donald Trump regarding Pope Leo XIV. Amid the strain, Secretary of State Marco Rubio traveled to the Vatican, where he met privately with the Holy Father. Dr. Maryann Love, Chair of the Politics Department at The Catholic University of America, joins to discuss what message this sends diplomatically and spiritually, how much influence the Vatican realistically has in de-escalating tensions or encouraging diplomacy in the Middle East, and whether this meeting was a sign that the White House is trying to mend bridges with the Vatican.

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