In this fun Friday deep dive, Dr. Ryan Womack returns to the Tiny Table to share the story behind his conversion to the Catholic faith and how St. John Henry Newman changed his life. Raised Southern Baptist and steeped in Scripture, Ryan’s love for history, truth, and beauty led him into the writings of Newman, the life of the early Church, and finally into the sacraments of the Catholic Church.

Paul Kolker, Nick Bezner, and Jeff Schiefelbein talk with Ryan about false summits in the spiritual life, why “everyone has to convert” over and over again, and how a Benedictine abbot with a big gold chain became the first Catholic Ryan ever met. Along the way, they hit on confession, the so-called “dark ages,” and why university education without theology misses the point of the human person.

If you have ever wrestled with Church history, Protestant and Catholic questions, or what it really means to live a sacramental life, this conversation will stretch your mind, stir your imagination, and invite you into a profound ongoing conversion of heart.

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