Is the pro-life movement winning the argument while losing the battle on the ground? Mary Margaret sits down with Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America, to take stock of the movement in the wake of Dobbs. Despite 20 states passing strong pro-life protections, abortion rates have climbed, driven by an unregulated flood of abortion pills no one in power seems willing to restrict. Dannenfelser argues that the Republican silence on life isn't political prudence, it's political suicide: a base depressed is a base that stays home. With the 2028 presidential field already taking shape, she makes the case that courage on this issue isn't just a moral obligation. It's the only strategy that works.

Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
3:24 Is abortion a Republican liability?
7:08 The abortion pill crisis
10:40 What the abortion pill safeguards actually were
15:51 Republican lawmakers, the FDA, and a DOJ that sided against them
19:53 JD Vance, Marco Rubio, and the 2028 presidential field
23:46 Why Republicans have quietly swapped abortion for gender ideology
28:22 The one issue unifying the entire pro-life movement
33:02 What the pro-life movement has actually gained since Dobbs
35:07 What Catholics and Christians should be doing right now

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In Conversation With | Episode #5

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Host: Mary Margaret Olohan
Guest: Marjorie Dannenfelser
Film Crew: Cavern Collective
Production Team: Arcadia Digital

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