In this highly controversial conversation, we dive into a powerful conversion story—from Judaism to Catholicism—that flips common assumptions upside down. Franco and Daniel (youtube.com/@TheJewishCatholic) tackle why embracing the Catholic faith fulfills the Jewish prophets, what the Talmud really says (and doesn’t say) about Jesus and Mary, why Protestantism and Orthodoxy fall short of the fullness of truth, and how the Eucharist, Apostolic succession, and the papacy complete God’s plan, and why the Catholic Church isn’t the “new Israel”… but the true Israel.

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00:00 – Opening in Rome: “The Most Jewish Thing You Can Do Is Become Catholic”
Introductions, first thoughts, and framing Catholicism as the fulfillment of Judaism.

01:14 – Family Story & Faith Background
Spanish, African, and Jewish ancestry → raised Protestant → family’s journey of faith.

03:24 – College Crisis & Searching for Identity
Low point in college, exploring Judaism and Messianic congregations.

07:04 – What Is Judaism?
Explaining Orthodox, Reform, Modern, and secular strands of Judaism.

08:19 – The Talmud Explained
Mishnah, Gemara, and oral tradition — what Christians often misunderstand.

09:44 – Does the Talmud Attack Jesus & Mary?
Addressing controversial passages and separating myth from fact.

12:14 – Jewish Feasts, Yom Kippur & Christian Apologetics
How the Talmud and Temple rituals connect to Christ and the Eucharist.

18:23 – Ideology vs. People
Why Rabbinic Judaism must be critiqued without stereotyping Jewish people.

24:25 – Do Jews Still Need Christ?
Misreadings of Vatican II and why evangelization remains essential.

25:57 – Nostra Aetate Misunderstood
How the Vatican II text is twisted — and how it led to one Jew’s conversion.

27:21 – Who Are the True People of God?
Not “new Israel,” but the true Israel fulfilled in Christ’s Church.

32:05 – Why Not Protestantism?
Rejecting sola fide and sola scriptura using Jewish and biblical logic.

41:07 – Authority & Scripture
Why authority is necessary; the Church vs. personal interpretation.

47:00 – Who Decided the Bible’s Books?
Canon formation and the role of the magisterium.

52:00 – The Eucharist in the Early Church Fathers
Didache, Clement, Ignatius, Polycarp — all testifying to the Real Presence.

53:20 – Apostolic Succession
From Moses → Joshua → elders → Sanhedrin → Christ → Apostles → Bishops.

54:21 – Authority Fulfilled in Christ
Why authority doesn’t end with rabbis but continues through the Church.

55:06 – Isaiah 22 and the Papacy
Eliakim the steward, Rashi’s commentary, and papal authority prefigured.

56:37 – “Vicar” in a Theocracy
How the steward pattern shows Catholicism as Israel’s true continuation.

57:01 – Why Not Orthodoxy?
Brothers in faith, but lacking the papacy that completes the pattern.

57:24 – Restoring David’s Kingdom = Restoring the Pattern
Written + oral Torah and a magisterial system carried into the Church.

58:44 – Peter the Rock (Kepha)
Shimon → Kepha; Aramaic foundations of Christ’s promise to Peter.

59:08 – The Keys & the Temple
Priests sleeping with the keys; Temple imagery fulfilled in Peter.

01:03:33 – Seat of Moses → Seat of Peter
Binding judgments then — and now, in the papacy.

01:04:40 – Why the Pope Is Needed
Settling questions (contraception, divorce) with binding authority.

01:05:03 – Old Heresies, New Faces
Sadducees, Essenes, Protestants — rejecting authority across history.

01:05:49 – Protestant Jews Under Moses
Biblical warning against rejecting God-given leadership.

01:06:14 – Alcohol, Temperance & Prudence
Personal backstory, straight-edge lifestyle, and Catholic teaching on moderation.

01:08:20 – Wrap-Up: Japan, Culture & Whiskey
Japanese excellence, whiskey craftsmanship, and moral reflection on war.

01:13:13 – Closing Thanks & Farewell
Gifts exchanged, laughs, blessings, and final goodbyes.