Welcome to "Signs of the Times," a segment of the "Jesuitical" podcast analyzing Catholic news of the week:

00:00 Headlines
00:43 Pope Leo meets Marco Rubio
5:34 A border wall through a pilgrimage site?
8:32 A cosmetics mogul turned Catholic priest
10:30 Customer service hangs up on Pope Leo

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Links:
Pope Leo meets with Marco Rubio amid Trump’s personal attacks: https://www.americamagazine.org/vatican-dispatch/2026/05/07/pope-leo-marco-rubio-trump
Catholic diocese fights Trump administration plan to seize pilgrimage site for border wall: https://www.americamagazine.org/news/2026/05/12/las-cruces-diocese-trump-border-wall-fight
Cosmetics millionaire turned seminarian, he’d give fortune ‘back a million times’ for Jesus: https://www.thecatholicspirit.com/news/nation-and-world/cosmetics-millionaire-turned-seminarian-hed-give-fortune-back-a-million-times-for-jesus
Story of customer service agent hanging up on Leo shows pope’s ‘normal’ side: https://www.americamagazine.org/news/2026/05/08/bank-customer-service-pope-leo

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